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[14:37] [dynaflash] Okay, when I choose eddyg's new dplI + AC3 I get that as a single mixdown, but the codecs dropdown goes blank
[14:38] [dynaflash] then If I check it, it only has its original entried and cannot get back to the thrid codec choice
[14:42] [NightStorm] hm
[14:43] Nick change: jbrjake_ -> jbrjake
[14:43] [NightStorm] so how many "how do you compile svn, while dont you just release the damn program threads will be created today"? :)
[14:43] [jbrjake] too many :/
[14:44] [NightStorm] i love how michaelLAX still thought it was aac in mov
[14:44] [jbrjake] obnoxious users, ignore us, don't give us any testing, only want want want when there's a "sexy" feature simple enough for them to understand.
[14:49] [NightStorm] these combo rips are really making it necessary for more space on the iphone
[14:50] [jbrjake] no doubt
[14:50] [jbrjake] think how cool it will be when there are 128GB iPhones, though ;
[14:50] [NightStorm] heck yeah
[15:04] [dynaflash] jbrjake: whenever you checkin your deinterlace stuff, I will start fixing the audio tab
[15:04] [jbrjake] ok. still struggling with the cli implementation of this.
[15:04] [dynaflash] np
[15:06] [dynaflash] oh, and can verify that DS 1 pass patch definitely fixes the macroblocking at scene changes with 2 pass vbv, though I dont know at what cost
[15:09] [dynaflash] the worst part is, as long as we are using the mixdown popups to determine this, we have to incorporate mixdowns into the presets, which up until now we have avoided
[15:09] [jbrjake] eugh
[15:09] [jbrjake] please. please. find some way to change this for 0.9.2
[15:09] [dynaflash] yes. If we were to keep it just in the codecs popup, no sweat
[15:09] [dynaflash] mixdowns only suck because they change depending on what source audio is available
[15:13] [jbrjake] argh quicktime player doesn't display stuff correctly. it lists all the stereo streams followed by all the surround streams. so stereo stereo stereo stereo surround surround surround surround. users will love that.
[15:13] [jbrjake] even though in the mp4 struture it goes stereo surround stereo surround etc
[15:14] [NightStorm] most will never know
[15:14] [jbrjake] nice, vlc shows them in the correct order and can play the aac tracks
[15:14] [NightStorm] because they dont care as long as it works
[15:31] [superdump] have any of you guys used the gcc 4.2 preview from apple? (it's old, released last august)
[15:32] [superdump] just wondering if there's an easy way to switch the unix symlinks to use it rather than 4.0.1
[15:32] [superdump] and switch it back again
[15:32] [superdump] macports has gcc_select, but i'll have to write out all the symlinks myself
[15:36] [jbrjake] cool, iphone is smart enough to only display a track list with the aac tracks
[15:36] [jbrjake] no items that can be selected-but-not-played
[15:37] [NightStorm] nice
[15:37] [NightStorm] didnt think of looking there
[15:53] [jbrjake] uh-oh
[15:53] [jbrjake] guys
[15:53] [jbrjake] compare track durations
[15:54] [jbrjake] i'm getting different durations for ac3 tracks when i pair them with aac tracks than i do with them alone
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[16:03] [NightStorm] the hud in itunes will allow you to switch between the stereo and surround track
[16:03] [jbrjake] nm, stupid mistake on my part, forgot to revise the samplerate check
[16:04] [dynaflash] Has anyone tested changing audio tracks on the atv ?
[16:06] [NightStorm] is that possible?
[16:06] [NightStorm] other than disabling the dd out
[16:07] [NightStorm] doing just that results in pcm output to my receiver
[16:07] [NightStorm] im assuming from the aac track
[16:08] [dynaflash] right, but you can do it in the atv interface ?
[16:09] [dynaflash] or in qt ?
[16:09] [NightStorm] not that ive found
[16:10] [dynaflash] didnt think so
[16:10] [NightStorm] seems like an oversight
[16:15] [CIA-1] jbrjake * r1268 test/test.c:
[16:15] [CIA-1] Wires up the CLI for doing AAC and AC3 at the same time, with a new audio
[16:15] [CIA-1] encoder value, aac+ac3. Allows up to 4 source tracks to be selected, all are
[16:15] [CIA-1] handled the same way. (Track-by-track audio configuration waits for 0.9.3.)
[16:21] [hbrbot] ::hb_trac:: Changeset [1268]: Wires up the CLI for doing AAC and AC3 at the same time, with a new audio & @ http://trac.handbrake.fr/changeset/1268
[16:31] [jbrjake] dynaflash: can you confirm this looks good for deinterlacing? http://pastebin.ca/906278
[16:32] [jbrjake] i merged your preset changes in manually, just wanna make sure i did so correctly
[16:38] [Cavalicious] my track durations are off by .5
[16:39] [Cavalicious] Can we not do Chapter Markers with an acc + ac3 track?
[16:39] [jbrjake] off by .5 what?
[16:39] [NightStorm] chapter markers work here
[16:40] [Cavalicious] I reencoded with a AC3 and a dpl2, but my chapter makers didn't get put in
[16:40] [NightStorm] hmm
[16:41] [Cavalicious] jbrjake: Stereo = 2:02:31.08 and Surround = 2:02:31.13
[16:41] [Cavalicious] no big deal...I think
[16:41] [jbrjake] it's always like that
[16:41] [Cavalicious] Video track = 2:02:31.17
[16:42] [jbrjake] generally hb keeps them all within .09 seconds of each other
[16:42] [Cavalicious] ok..I just saw your comment about durations being off
[16:42] [jbrjake] my was off by like 7 seconds
[16:42] [Cavalicious] oh
[16:42] [jbrjake] it's because eddy's way of doing this in the lib changed between the ac3 patch and the ac3+dpl2 patch
[16:43] [jbrjake] audio encoder has to be aac now, and my check to force 48khz was for ac3 encoder
[16:44] [jbrjake] a side effect of this is i currently have no way of safeguarding that in the lib
[16:45] *** jbrjake supposes he can try peeking inside the audio array...
[16:46] [Cavalicious] I *think* I know where I goofed up at...was I suppose to use the single track mixdown of "Dolby PLII + AC-3" ?
[16:47] [NightStorm] yep
[16:47] [Cavalicious] I used AC3 Pass on the 1st track and DPL2 on the 2nd
[16:47] [Cavalicious] shit...back to reencoding
[16:49] [Cavalicious] I tell you what, DRC of 2.0 .w AC3 really brings out the rears!
[16:49] [NightStorm] DRC shouldnt touch the AC3
[16:49] [NightStorm] i wouldnt think anyways
[16:49] [NightStorm] AC3 should be passed through, you can adjust DRC on the receiver
[16:50] [Cavalicious] thats what I thought/read....maybe its just the excitment of having AC3 on my AppleTV
[16:50] [Cavalicious] :)
[16:50] [NightStorm] :)
[16:50] [jbrjake] drc does not touch ac3 pass-thru
[16:51] [NightStorm] otherwise it wouldnt be "pass-thru" :)
[16:51] [jbrjake] nothing wrong with doing ac3 on track 1 and dpl2 on track 2, it just wastes an audio track
[16:52] [Cavalicious] jbrjake: but for some reason (in QT) I don't get the Chapter select box
[16:54] [ritsuka] chapter in quicktime works only with the first audio track, we don't write the chapter ref atom in the others audio tracks at the moment
[16:54] [jbrjake] oh wonderful :/
[16:55] [Cavalicious] ok, maybe thats why it worked on my AC3 only encodes
[16:55] [NightStorm] chapter seems to work for me when playing the stereo track in itunes
[16:56] [NightStorm] and the surround
[16:56] [Cavalicious] stereo is the 1st audio track, surround is the 2nd?
[16:56] [Cavalicious] oh wait..I get it
[16:57] [Cavalicious] You encoded correctly with one track, while I did 2
[16:57] [NightStorm] ah
[16:57] [NightStorm] ac3+dpl2 only uses one track?
[16:57] [dynaflash] no, 2
[16:57] [Cavalicious] and if I look at it, the 2nd track is enable and it is stereo
[16:58] [Cavalicious] ok, then I'm don guessing
[16:58] [Cavalicious] done
[16:58] [jbrjake] when you use dpl2+ac3 it's aac on track 1 and ac3 on track 2
[16:58] [jbrjake] that's how apple has their trailer set up
[16:58] [dynaflash] right. thats what I get, which should be cool
[16:59] [Cavalicious] ok, I'm re-encoding now
[16:59] [NightStorm] should try it the other way and see if the atv can correctly see the ac3 track
[17:00] [NightStorm] guess wouldnt really learn anything useful from that though
[17:01] [Cavalicious] dynaflash: you said your c2d allows for SSe3 and SSSE3 ?
[17:02] [sr55] it does
[17:02] [dynaflash] x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSSE3 Cache64
[17:02] [Cavalicious] x264 [info]: using cpu capabilities: MMX MMXEXT SSE SSE2 Cache64
[17:02] [dynaflash] you got chumped
[17:02] [dynaflash] :)
[17:02] *** Cavalicious is not talking to dyna anymore :(
[17:03] [Cavalicious] hmmm...it is still under warranty...
[17:10] [CIA-1] jbrjake * r1269 /trunk/ (macosx/Controller.mm macosx/PictureController.mm test/test.c): Mcdeint is broken, so avoid using it as a deinterlacer. No more "Slowest," "Slow" becomes yadif without spatial checks, "Slower" becomes yadif with spatial checks.
[17:10] [hbrbot] ::hb_trac:: Changeset [1269]: Mcdeint is broken, so avoid using it as a deinterlacer. No more "Slowest," & @ http://trac.handbrake.fr/changeset/1269
[17:11] [dynaflash] updating and going in now "Ahoooga ... Ahooooga Dive .. Dive ... Dive "
[17:12] [dynaflash] man, this is a sticky wicket
[17:13] *** dynaflash goes to make another pot of coffee
[17:15] [CIA-1] jbrjake * r1270 libhb/work.c: Adds another safeguard to ensure AC3 pass-thru uses a 48khz sample rate.
[17:16] [NightStorm] hmm weird
[17:16] [NightStorm] christmas vacation dvd reports dolby surround audio, but hb defaulted to mono downmix
[17:16] [NightStorm] hadnt seen that before
[17:17] [dynaflash] those mixdowns will need re working, they do no like when something new is added
[17:17] [CIA-1] jbrjake * r1271 libhb/render.c: Fixes crashes with 2-pass when b-frames are enabled, by only using the delay_queue in render.c to actually delay frames when VFR is enabled.
[17:17] [NightStorm] yeah that is what i was htinking
[17:17] *** dynaflash wishes from a simplicity perspective if it was all handled through the codecs drop down like the first one
[17:18] *** jbrjake too
[17:18] [jbrjake] that was a lot easier to work with
[17:18] [jbrjake] and actually made sense
[17:18] [jbrjake] as opposed to having a Codecs pop-up that bears no relation to the codecs in use
[17:20] [hbrbot] ::hb_trac:: Changeset [1270]: Adds another safeguard to ensure AC3 pass-thru uses a 48khz sample rate. @ http://trac.handbrake.fr/changeset/1270
[17:20] [hbrbot] ::hb_trac:: Changeset [1271]: Fixes crashes with 2-pass when b-frames are enabled, by only using the & @ http://trac.handbrake.fr/changeset/1271
[17:20] *** dynaflash has a thought
[17:20] [dynaflash] what if we have two new options under the mp4 codec
[17:21] [dynaflash] AVC/H.264 / AC3
[17:21] [dynaflash] AVC/H.264 / AAC + AC3
[17:22] [dynaflash] first one acts just like eddyg's initial implementation
[17:22] [dynaflash] Second one acts just like AAC, but behind the scenes add the AC3 Surround Track
[17:22] [dynaflash] though you know it, cause it says so in the codec
[17:23] [dynaflash] Or
[17:23] [jbrjake] please
[17:23] [dynaflash] just keep the existing xxx /aac codec
[17:23] [dynaflash] but add an "Add AC3 Pass Thru" checkbox or something
[17:24] [dynaflash] thereby leaving the aac code still fully functional and intact
[17:24] [jbrjake] do it through codecs for now, then i think for 0.9.3 get rid of the codecs popup altogether and have all videos encoders in one popup on the video tab and then track-by-track on the audio tab.
[17:25] [jbrjake] but for 0.9.2 i really think having h.264/AAC and h.264/AC3 and h.264/AAC+AC3 in the codecs is the best way to do this
[17:25] [sr55] Whats happening at the CLI level for this?
[17:25] [jbrjake] read the timeline
[17:25] [sr55] ok
[17:27] [dynaflash] k. this will take a bit
[17:27] [dynaflash] as well, realize we are gonna have to make sure and test that none of the other normal mixdowns show any ill effects
[17:29] [dynaflash] This will still allow you to use whatever mixdown you want for the aac track, which I like
[17:29] [jbrjake] :/
[17:29] [jbrjake] :(
[17:30] [dynaflash] what ?
[17:30] [jbrjake] there is no way for me to translate that to the cli
[17:31] [jbrjake] before 0.9.3
[17:32] [dynaflash] hmm. well if its important, I could maybe hardcode the aac track if h.264/AAC+AC3 is the codec popup, you know to either dpl or whatnot
[17:32] [dynaflash] though what about a non-ac3 5.1 source ?
[17:32] [dynaflash] right now the macgui knows to mix that to stereo
[17:32] [jbrjake] dpl2 degrades gracefully. maurj's smart like that.
[17:32] [jbrjake] it's why you see requested and actual mixdown in the logs
[17:32] [dynaflash] I know that.
[17:33] [jbrjake] can you please just do what you were saying with the codecs popup?
[17:33] [dynaflash] Yes, but you frowned
[17:33] [jbrjake] no, i frowned at the idea that you're setting individual mixdown characteristics on a track-by-track basis
[17:34] [dynaflash] *confused* I am going to do it the codecs way, dont know what to tell you about the cli :P
[17:35] [jbrjake] i don't understand how you're setting the track to use whatever mixdown you want
[17:36] [jbrjake] i thought what we were doing is using a codecs popup, and the ac3+dpl2 thing, and let people have two different tracks, both doppelgangered
[17:37] [dynaflash] *sigh* I am
[17:37] [dynaflash] to which you got jbrjake: there is no way for me to translate that to the cli
[17:37] [jbrjake] no
[17:37] [jbrjake] i said that in response to "allow you to use whatever mixdown you want for the aac track"
[17:37] [dynaflash] right
[17:38] [dynaflash] cause thats how aac works now
[17:38] [jbrjake] ....
[17:38] [dynaflash] I am just adding the ac3 surround track (or for that matter ac3 2.0 track it its all that exists)
[17:38] [dynaflash] Do you want me to only allow dpl2 ?
[17:38] [jbrjake] yes, that's what i keep saying, i can't set track-by-track mixdown characteristics in the cli
[17:39] [jbrjake] without totally rewriting the option parsing
[17:39] [jbrjake] which there isn't time for if we want to get this out soon
[17:39] [jbrjake] and the job vars aren't ready for it either
[17:40] [dynaflash] *sigh* okay, to repeat: what do we do about AC3 2.0 sources, cannot get dpl2 out of them
[17:40] [jbrjake] i already told you
[17:40] [jbrjake] maurj's code degrades gracefully
[17:40] [jbrjake] that's why you see requested and actual mixdown in the logs
[17:40] [dynaflash] duh, I know that. but the drop down code doesnt do that currently
[17:41] [dynaflash] I didnt just join this circus yesterday :P
[17:42] [dynaflash] tell you what, I will try it the way you want it and then adjust maurj's drop down code accordingly and hopefully shit wont break
[17:43] [jbrjake] what drop down?
[17:43] [jbrjake] i really don't understand
[17:43] [dynaflash] right. you dont
[17:44] [jbrjake] if the codec choice is AAC+AC3 the mixdown popup should only have DPL2+AC3 PassThru as its sole item
[17:44] [dynaflash] *sigh* forget it. I will do what you say and you can see what I mean
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